I know I had signed off on the blog, but I have to add this one thought.
Today, TEW declared relic war on us (PANIC).
They took out a relic we had kept for a long time, Krul Pyramid.
I went over to take a look at retaliation, against a relic they had been keeping, Ethereal Pillars.
When I got there, I saw that a friend, FallenAnn, was already there.
Mind you, she may be in a guild named 'Imaginary Friends', but she's not imaginary, she's for real. :)
TEW's defense was good, I have to acknowledge that. I was struggling to get my group stats and my calculation straight. Before I could do so, I realized that the Pillars were knocked down.
Imaginary Friends hits The Eternal Warriors for 1 damage. The Eternal Warriors hits Imaginary Friends for 20408 damage. Last Ditch activated on death restoring 20% HP to . Imaginary Friends hits The Eternal Warriors for 3573 damage. was stunned. used reflection to increase damage by 3572. Imaginary Friends were victorious! Control of the 'Ethereal Pillars' relic has been taken from The Eternal Warriors!
And that was not all .. I also learnt that there is yet another friend, and no, it was not imaginary.
FallenAnn says: UveBinHad says: Get Force Shield and give it a try , your attack is high enough all by your self. lol. Have a 10 person or better group. Tell me 2 others in your group and I'll hit them with Fortitude, that will give you a ton of extra HP
UveBinHad, someone who had contributed so much to the guild, and yet so greatly misunderstood. When time comes and PANIC is in crisis, he's here, silently to the rescue.
FallenAnn says: Player UveBinHad activated the skill 'Last Ditch' (Level: 175) on you. [ Reply | Trade | ST | Buff | Attack ] [Notification] 03:18 13/Aug/2010 [ Ignore ] Player UveBinHad activated the skill 'Enchant Shield' (Level: 175) on you. [ Reply | Trade | ST | Buff | Attack ] [Notification] 03:18 13/Aug/2010 [ Ignore ] Player UveBinHad activated the skill 'Fortitude' (Level: 175) on you. [ Reply | Trade | ST | Buff | Attack ] [Notification] 03:18 13/Aug/2010 [ Ignore ] Player UveBinHad activated the skill 'Iron Fist' (Level: 175) on you. [ Reply | Trade | ST | Buff | Attack ] [Notification] 03:18 13/Aug/2010 [ Ignore ] Player UveBinHad activated the skill 'Shockwave' (Level: 175) on you. [ Reply | Trade | ST | Buff | Attack ] [Notification] 03:18 13/Aug/2010 [ Ignore ] Player UveBinHad activated the skill 'Stun' (Level: 175) on you.
True friends do not have to be in the same guild, and they will help, without prompting, without needing acknowledgement, but I feel the need to acknowledge them.
Thank you FallenAnn, UveBinHad. I miss both of you.
Thursday, August 12, 2010
Saturday, August 7, 2010
Playing Empire Craft
This is my last post on this blog. I have started on another game, and I had fun writing this blog in the last 2 and a half years, hope you enjoyed reading it as much as I writing it. But time has come for me to move on.
If you want to join me in this new game, my referal link is :
http://in.ec.hithere.com/r.html?tg=759997
I've also started blogging on the new game, and that blog can be found on :
http://sislandec.blogspot.com/
The game is Empire Craft, and I am playing on World 5 (w5.hithere.com).
My ID there is the same as my ID in Fallensword : sisland.
... signing off.
If you want to join me in this new game, my referal link is :
http://in.ec.hithere.com/r.html?tg=759997
I've also started blogging on the new game, and that blog can be found on :
http://sislandec.blogspot.com/
The game is Empire Craft, and I am playing on World 5 (w5.hithere.com).
My ID there is the same as my ID in Fallensword : sisland.
... signing off.
Thursday, July 1, 2010
New Potion Recipes
7 new recipes were recently introduced.
All of them are recipes for potions.
1. Bottled Dragons Breath
Level 250 - Ignite - Duration of 120 mins - Min level 5
Since ignite isn't too useful a spell, and a higher level ignite does not give more damage (just higher chance of activation), I don't think this potion will be worth making.
2. Caged Imp
Level 400 - Summon Shield Imp - Duration 120 mins - Min level 5
(WAS)Level 200 - Summon Shield Imp - Duration 120 mins - Min level 5
(WAS) Level 100 - Summon Shield Imp - Duration 90 mins - Min level 5
This potion was upgraded twice after it was introduced. Now at level 400, it is higher than a skill buff, and will offer 11 blocks. By value of stam for the buff, this is worth at least 4 fsps. But its usefulness as 11 blocks will mean it is probably worth more than.
3. Marbled Fizzing Shield
Level 300 - Force Shield - Duration of 120 mins - Min level 5
Even though the name says shield, it is referring to the effect of the potion and not a shield you can equip. Force Shield is a useful buff, and can be a life saver, especially in PvP. A level 300 buff gives a 30% chance of activation. Prior to this, the highest one can get is the Potion of Shielding, level 200 buffs, and very short duration.
4. Potion of Ensnaring Grasp
Level 250 - Shockwave - Duration of 90 mins - Min level 5
This translate to a 25% chance that your opponent will forfeit their next combat turn. Again, this can be useful in PvP.
5. Potion of Nullifying Draft
Level 250 - Spell Breaker - Duration of 120 mins - Min level 5
At level 250, this gives 25% chance to remove a random buff from PvP opponents. Again useful in PvP scenario, especially if you are hitting the target multiple times.
6. Potion of Reinforced Will
Level 50 - Avert Gaze - Duration of 60 mins - Min level 5
This potion is below the level of a skill buff, making it quite useless. However, the skill is only available to level 900 or higher. UveBinHad pointed out that this potion can be useful in hunting the Colossus Titan. That titan has Hypnotize and can be a bit difficult to hit when the skill activates.
7. Potion of Waking Hypnotism
Level 100 - Avert Gaze - Duration of 60 mins - Min level 5
Same as above, but level 100.
8. Crippling Poison
Level 100 - Poison - Duration of 60 mins - Min level 5
This potion is also below the level of a skill buff. Again, since this buff is available only to level 900 or higher, it might find its use among lower level player/guild.
9. Deadly Venom
Level 50 - Poison - Duration of 60 mins - Min level 5
Same as above, but level 50, so definitely less useful.
Thanks to Tully for getting me the recipes for the first 7 potion.
Thanks to Scathian for alerting me to the potions that Tully missed. (Tully, you can blame Scathian). :)
All of them are recipes for potions.
1. Bottled Dragons Breath
Level 250 - Ignite - Duration of 120 mins - Min level 5
Since ignite isn't too useful a spell, and a higher level ignite does not give more damage (just higher chance of activation), I don't think this potion will be worth making.
2. Caged Imp
Level 400 - Summon Shield Imp - Duration 120 mins - Min level 5
(WAS)Level 200 - Summon Shield Imp - Duration 120 mins - Min level 5
(WAS) Level 100 - Summon Shield Imp - Duration 90 mins - Min level 5
This potion was upgraded twice after it was introduced. Now at level 400, it is higher than a skill buff, and will offer 11 blocks. By value of stam for the buff, this is worth at least 4 fsps. But its usefulness as 11 blocks will mean it is probably worth more than.
3. Marbled Fizzing Shield
Level 300 - Force Shield - Duration of 120 mins - Min level 5
Even though the name says shield, it is referring to the effect of the potion and not a shield you can equip. Force Shield is a useful buff, and can be a life saver, especially in PvP. A level 300 buff gives a 30% chance of activation. Prior to this, the highest one can get is the Potion of Shielding, level 200 buffs, and very short duration.
4. Potion of Ensnaring Grasp
Level 250 - Shockwave - Duration of 90 mins - Min level 5
This translate to a 25% chance that your opponent will forfeit their next combat turn. Again, this can be useful in PvP.
5. Potion of Nullifying Draft
Level 250 - Spell Breaker - Duration of 120 mins - Min level 5
At level 250, this gives 25% chance to remove a random buff from PvP opponents. Again useful in PvP scenario, especially if you are hitting the target multiple times.
6. Potion of Reinforced Will
Level 50 - Avert Gaze - Duration of 60 mins - Min level 5
This potion is below the level of a skill buff, making it quite useless. However, the skill is only available to level 900 or higher. UveBinHad pointed out that this potion can be useful in hunting the Colossus Titan. That titan has Hypnotize and can be a bit difficult to hit when the skill activates.
7. Potion of Waking Hypnotism
Level 100 - Avert Gaze - Duration of 60 mins - Min level 5
Same as above, but level 100.
8. Crippling Poison
Level 100 - Poison - Duration of 60 mins - Min level 5
This potion is also below the level of a skill buff. Again, since this buff is available only to level 900 or higher, it might find its use among lower level player/guild.
9. Deadly Venom
Level 50 - Poison - Duration of 60 mins - Min level 5
Same as above, but level 50, so definitely less useful.
Thanks to Tully for getting me the recipes for the first 7 potion.
Thanks to Scathian for alerting me to the potions that Tully missed. (Tully, you can blame Scathian). :)
Saturday, June 5, 2010
Iron Fist and Enchant Shield
Iron Fist and Enchant Shield are 2 level 900 buffs recently introduced.
Iron Fist is in the Offense Skill Tree, Enchant Shield is in the Defense Skill Tree.
But both skills really enchants an item you wear, and for the matter hunting, those items will be damage items, and in a way, both are offensive skills, regardless of where game makers place them.
Iron Fist description :
+0.1% per point stat bonus increase to your equipped gloves. (Excludes 'Gain' bonuses).
Require level 900, 25 stamina, and last 60 mins.
Offense Skill Tree
Enchant Shield description :
+0.1% per point stat bonus increase to your equipped shield. (Excludes 'Gain' bonuses).
Require level 900, 25 stamina, and last 60 mins.
Defense Skill Tree
Compare them with :
Enchant Weapon description :
+0.1% per point stat bonus increase to your equipped weapon. (Excludes 'Gain' bonuses).
Require level 25, 10 stamina, and last 90 mins.
Offense Skill Tree
Enchant Armor description :
+0.1% per point stat bonus increase to your equipped armor. (Excludes 'Gain' bonuses).
Require level 75, 10 stamina, and last 90 mins.
Defense Skill Tree
So the new skills require a higher level, more stamina, and last for a shorter duration.
For hunting (at level 820), the benefits are listed as follows ::
#1 : Enchant Weapon
(Reborn Elemental Blade of Fire) - 1740 damage
Level 1500 potion gives 2610 damage.
Level 1000 potion gives 1740 damage.
Level 175 buff gives 304 damage.
#2 : Berserk
It'll depend on your base damage, based on my stats :
Level 350 potion gives 1149 damage.
Level 175 buff gives 574 damage.
#3 : Fury
It'll depend on your base damage, based on my stats :
Level 175 buff gives 287 damage.
#4 : Enchant Armor
(Armor of Jutindou) - 1108 damage
Level 200 potion gives 221 damage.
Level 175 buff gives 193 damage.
#5 : Enchant Shield
(Shield of Caldoura) - 1170 damage
Level 175 buff gives 204 damage.
#6 : Iron Fist
(Volkers Gauntlets) - 740 damage
Level 175 buff gives 129 damage.
(Yes, this is not the highest damage glove, but this is probably what you will be using.)
That's the order of things, and getting enchant shield is less important than getting the lower level enchant armor, and iron fist is probably the least important among the damage enchancing buffs.
Iron Fist is in the Offense Skill Tree, Enchant Shield is in the Defense Skill Tree.
But both skills really enchants an item you wear, and for the matter hunting, those items will be damage items, and in a way, both are offensive skills, regardless of where game makers place them.
Iron Fist description :
+0.1% per point stat bonus increase to your equipped gloves. (Excludes 'Gain' bonuses).
Require level 900, 25 stamina, and last 60 mins.
Offense Skill Tree
Enchant Shield description :
+0.1% per point stat bonus increase to your equipped shield. (Excludes 'Gain' bonuses).
Require level 900, 25 stamina, and last 60 mins.
Defense Skill Tree
Compare them with :
Enchant Weapon description :
+0.1% per point stat bonus increase to your equipped weapon. (Excludes 'Gain' bonuses).
Require level 25, 10 stamina, and last 90 mins.
Offense Skill Tree
Enchant Armor description :
+0.1% per point stat bonus increase to your equipped armor. (Excludes 'Gain' bonuses).
Require level 75, 10 stamina, and last 90 mins.
Defense Skill Tree
So the new skills require a higher level, more stamina, and last for a shorter duration.
For hunting (at level 820), the benefits are listed as follows ::
#1 : Enchant Weapon
(Reborn Elemental Blade of Fire) - 1740 damage
Level 1500 potion gives 2610 damage.
Level 1000 potion gives 1740 damage.
Level 175 buff gives 304 damage.
#2 : Berserk
It'll depend on your base damage, based on my stats :
Level 350 potion gives 1149 damage.
Level 175 buff gives 574 damage.
#3 : Fury
It'll depend on your base damage, based on my stats :
Level 175 buff gives 287 damage.
#4 : Enchant Armor
(Armor of Jutindou) - 1108 damage
Level 200 potion gives 221 damage.
Level 175 buff gives 193 damage.
#5 : Enchant Shield
(Shield of Caldoura) - 1170 damage
Level 175 buff gives 204 damage.
#6 : Iron Fist
(Volkers Gauntlets) - 740 damage
Level 175 buff gives 129 damage.
(Yes, this is not the highest damage glove, but this is probably what you will be using.)
That's the order of things, and getting enchant shield is less important than getting the lower level enchant armor, and iron fist is probably the least important among the damage enchancing buffs.
Saturday, May 29, 2010
Reckoning
This is another level 900 skills that was recently introduced.
Description :
+0.2% per point chance of doubling a random skill level for the battle if you initiate the combat (Note that this skill does not work with Doubler, Summon Shield Imp or Counter Attack.).
So at level 175, that translate to 35% chance of doubling a random skill.
Now, the description is thrown up for interpretation. If you have 10 skills activated on you, do you have a 35% chance of doubling the skill level for EACH skill (which means each combat has 3-4 skills with doubled levels), or do you have a 35% chance of doubling the skill for one of those 10 skills?
My guess (and I will update this blog if I got it wrong) is the latter, and the algorithm goes like this :
#1 Roll a dice to determine if the 35% is activated.
#2 If activated, roll a dice again to determine which of the activated skill has its level doubled.
Given the above, that means the usefulness of the skill really depends on what skill was doubled.
For levelling, the most useful skills to have its level doubled are :
Adept Learner
I usually hunt with either a level 175 buff or a level 200 activated with guild RP.
At level 175, it gives 35% more xp, so if the skill level is doubled, you get 70% more xp!
Librarian
I usually use a level 225 potion, Potion of the Bookworm. That gives 22.5% more xp.
If the skill level is doubled, that means 45% more xp.
Conserve
With a level 175 buff, you have a 8.75% chance that the attack uses no stamina.
With Power leveller pack B, you can get a level 200 buff, increasing that chance to 10%.
Doubling those odds are great.
Now, if my guess on the algorithm is right, we really don't want the skill doubled to be anything else. In fact, if we can choose the skill, it'll always be Adept Learner. But we probably cannot choose. So here's now what I think will positively impact the way players play. Because the odds of activating one of those 3 skills above diminishes as we have more buffs, we now really want to hunt with minimal buffs. Each additional buff will compete for the doubling of levelling, and therefore reducing the odds of those 3 skills being doubled.
Description :
+0.2% per point chance of doubling a random skill level for the battle if you initiate the combat (Note that this skill does not work with Doubler, Summon Shield Imp or Counter Attack.).
So at level 175, that translate to 35% chance of doubling a random skill.
Now, the description is thrown up for interpretation. If you have 10 skills activated on you, do you have a 35% chance of doubling the skill level for EACH skill (which means each combat has 3-4 skills with doubled levels), or do you have a 35% chance of doubling the skill for one of those 10 skills?
My guess (and I will update this blog if I got it wrong) is the latter, and the algorithm goes like this :
#1 Roll a dice to determine if the 35% is activated.
#2 If activated, roll a dice again to determine which of the activated skill has its level doubled.
Given the above, that means the usefulness of the skill really depends on what skill was doubled.
For levelling, the most useful skills to have its level doubled are :
Adept Learner
I usually hunt with either a level 175 buff or a level 200 activated with guild RP.
At level 175, it gives 35% more xp, so if the skill level is doubled, you get 70% more xp!
Librarian
I usually use a level 225 potion, Potion of the Bookworm. That gives 22.5% more xp.
If the skill level is doubled, that means 45% more xp.
Conserve
With a level 175 buff, you have a 8.75% chance that the attack uses no stamina.
With Power leveller pack B, you can get a level 200 buff, increasing that chance to 10%.
Doubling those odds are great.
Now, if my guess on the algorithm is right, we really don't want the skill doubled to be anything else. In fact, if we can choose the skill, it'll always be Adept Learner. But we probably cannot choose. So here's now what I think will positively impact the way players play. Because the odds of activating one of those 3 skills above diminishes as we have more buffs, we now really want to hunt with minimal buffs. Each additional buff will compete for the doubling of levelling, and therefore reducing the odds of those 3 skills being doubled.
Friday, May 28, 2010
Distraction
No, this blog is not about me being distracted from FallenSword.
Which I am. I am playing another game (Empire Craft).
Since I did mention it, might as well give my referral link :)
http://in.ec.hithere.com/r.html?tg=759997
This blog is about a new skill, introduced today.
Distraction is a level 900 skill.
Description :
+0.2% per point chance to obtain no gold from a successful combat. +0.05% per point chance to inflict double damage in each round of combat. Note this skill has no effect in PvP.
So, the skill is an exchange of gold for a chance of double damage.
If you are 1-hitting, this is clearly not something you want.
However, if you are 2-hitting, is it better to simply save the gold and use that to buy stamina?
At level 175, you will be losing 35% of the gold for a 8.75% chance to double the damage.
If you are 2-hitting, I'll assume that you will be using Wither potion and Shield Strike.
Those 2 will give you a 75.25% chance to 1-hit in a 2-hitting setup.
With Distraction, that chance will only go up to 77.4%.
So you gain 2.16% in stam, losing 35% in gold.
At level 800 and up, each creature gives about 320 gold.
So the trade off is 112 gold for 0.0216 stam.
That means, to get 25 stam, you need to kill about 25/0.0216 = 1157 creatures.
At that rate, you would have lost about 129k in gold to gain 25 stam/1 fsp.
At first glance, it may seem like for 2-hitting, this is a buff to get.
But wait, the buff itself cost 25 stam and 1 fsp.
So assuming you kill 1157 creatures, you're trading 129k + 1 fsp for 1 fsp.
Clearly this is NOT the buff to get, not even if you're 2-hitting.
Which I am. I am playing another game (Empire Craft).
Since I did mention it, might as well give my referral link :)
http://in.ec.hithere.com/r.html?tg=759997
This blog is about a new skill, introduced today.
Distraction is a level 900 skill.
Description :
+0.2% per point chance to obtain no gold from a successful combat. +0.05% per point chance to inflict double damage in each round of combat. Note this skill has no effect in PvP.
So, the skill is an exchange of gold for a chance of double damage.
If you are 1-hitting, this is clearly not something you want.
However, if you are 2-hitting, is it better to simply save the gold and use that to buy stamina?
At level 175, you will be losing 35% of the gold for a 8.75% chance to double the damage.
If you are 2-hitting, I'll assume that you will be using Wither potion and Shield Strike.
Those 2 will give you a 75.25% chance to 1-hit in a 2-hitting setup.
With Distraction, that chance will only go up to 77.4%.
So you gain 2.16% in stam, losing 35% in gold.
At level 800 and up, each creature gives about 320 gold.
So the trade off is 112 gold for 0.0216 stam.
That means, to get 25 stam, you need to kill about 25/0.0216 = 1157 creatures.
At that rate, you would have lost about 129k in gold to gain 25 stam/1 fsp.
At first glance, it may seem like for 2-hitting, this is a buff to get.
But wait, the buff itself cost 25 stam and 1 fsp.
So assuming you kill 1157 creatures, you're trading 129k + 1 fsp for 1 fsp.
Clearly this is NOT the buff to get, not even if you're 2-hitting.
Wednesday, May 5, 2010
Hunting Setups for level 800 and above
It's been some time since I write on hunting setups.
Partly, because there's so many new items that I cannot catch up.
Also, it is no longer as straight forward as getting maximum damage.
In many cases, you can get enough damage AND enough defense.
Shield Imps now also do not kick in if the damage is not enough to kill you.
This means that armor setup is also feasible.
This post is on using defensive setups, not armor.
Level 792 : Armor of Jutindou
(I missed this one, and was not using this)
Volkers Set + Ormarrs set + Armor of Jutindou + Shield of Nouiban + Ring of Gasrel + Boots of Aeroni + Rune of Teuio
For some levels where you need more attack, trade Ormarrs set for Reborn Elemental Blade of Fire and Helmet of Comizhar.
Level 796 : Shield of Caldoura
This is an upgrade to the Shield of Nouiban. This will be the shield for 54 levels.
Level 801/811/830/831/836 : Amulets
These are nice amulets. However, since the hunting setup calls for Volkers set which include a gloves, these ugprades are useless.
Level 802/810 : Pailfe Gauntlets and Gloves of Rocuia
These are upgrades to the Gloves of Gialle, and like the amulets above, shadowed by the Volkers set.
Level 804 : Helmet of Houral
Since Ormarrs is still the preferred setup, this helmet only replaces Helmet of Comizhar in the alternate setup.
Level 806 : Rune of Yuahe
This replaces the Rune of Frokjas
Level 810 : Dimcriee Roc Rune
An alternative to Rune of Yuahe. This rune has damage/attack stats instead of damage/attack/defense. Can be useful when you need the extra attack.
Level 812 : Boots of Grovalke
Thanks to AndyPearce for spotting this one.
It's after 173 levels that we get an upgrade to the Boots of Aeroni.
Level 816 : Ring of Heppitor
The Ring of Gasrel gets an upgrade after 209 levels
Level 823 : Armor of Feldishja
Thanks to Tangtop for pointing out this one and the Rune of Chalbm.
This is an upgrade to the armor and has damage/defense stats.
Level 825 : Ring of Zarelk
This one's not as good as Heppitor.
Level 828 : Rune of Chalbm
This rune can increase the damage, but its stats is attack/armor/damage.
Compare with Rune of Yuahe, you are tradining 188 defense for 57 attack + 129 armor + 42 damage. Even if you don't care about the armor, that trade-off is probably still a good one, unless you need the defense.
Level 831 : Amulet of Ferhoal
This amulet upgrades the maximum damage, but we're still using the Volkers set.
However, this is the final amulet before level 850.
Level 837 : Ring of Gedaile
This ring can be crafted. A perfect ring will have 1394 damage after forging.
Level 850 : Archerons set / Chronos set
These 2 sets changes the setup quite significantly.
I can see 3 major setups :
1) Archerons set + Gloves of Rocuia + Amulet of Ferhoal + Reborn Elemental Blade of Fire + Armor of Feldishja + Ring of Gedaile + Boots of Aeroni + Rune of of Chalbm
2) Archerons set + Volkers set + Reborn Elemental Blade of Fire + Armor of Feldishja + Ring of Gedaile + Boots of Aeroni + Rune of of Chalbm
3) Archerons set + Volkers set + Chronos set + Reborn Elemental Blade of Fire + Armor of Feldishja
Setup #1 avoids any crystals. But setup #2 has the best damage among the 3 setups. Setup #3 has less damage, but a lot more defense. If the damage in setup #3 is sufficient, it is probably the best choice. If more attack is needed (but I doubt so), The Dimcriee Roc Rune can substitute the Rune of Yuahe.
Level 852 : Amulet of Dariila
This upgrade is only for setup #1, since the other setups use Volkers set.
Level 859 : Boots of Baliora
An upgrade to the Boots of Grovalke
Partly, because there's so many new items that I cannot catch up.
Also, it is no longer as straight forward as getting maximum damage.
In many cases, you can get enough damage AND enough defense.
Shield Imps now also do not kick in if the damage is not enough to kill you.
This means that armor setup is also feasible.
This post is on using defensive setups, not armor.
Level 792 : Armor of Jutindou
(I missed this one, and was not using this)
Volkers Set + Ormarrs set + Armor of Jutindou + Shield of Nouiban + Ring of Gasrel + Boots of Aeroni + Rune of Teuio
For some levels where you need more attack, trade Ormarrs set for Reborn Elemental Blade of Fire and Helmet of Comizhar.
Level 796 : Shield of Caldoura
This is an upgrade to the Shield of Nouiban. This will be the shield for 54 levels.
Level 801/811/830/831/836 : Amulets
These are nice amulets. However, since the hunting setup calls for Volkers set which include a gloves, these ugprades are useless.
Level 802/810 : Pailfe Gauntlets and Gloves of Rocuia
These are upgrades to the Gloves of Gialle, and like the amulets above, shadowed by the Volkers set.
Level 804 : Helmet of Houral
Since Ormarrs is still the preferred setup, this helmet only replaces Helmet of Comizhar in the alternate setup.
Level 806 : Rune of Yuahe
This replaces the Rune of Frokjas
Level 810 : Dimcriee Roc Rune
An alternative to Rune of Yuahe. This rune has damage/attack stats instead of damage/attack/defense. Can be useful when you need the extra attack.
Level 812 : Boots of Grovalke
Thanks to AndyPearce for spotting this one.
It's after 173 levels that we get an upgrade to the Boots of Aeroni.
Level 816 : Ring of Heppitor
The Ring of Gasrel gets an upgrade after 209 levels
Level 823 : Armor of Feldishja
Thanks to Tangtop for pointing out this one and the Rune of Chalbm.
This is an upgrade to the armor and has damage/defense stats.
Level 825 : Ring of Zarelk
This one's not as good as Heppitor.
Level 828 : Rune of Chalbm
This rune can increase the damage, but its stats is attack/armor/damage.
Compare with Rune of Yuahe, you are tradining 188 defense for 57 attack + 129 armor + 42 damage. Even if you don't care about the armor, that trade-off is probably still a good one, unless you need the defense.
Level 831 : Amulet of Ferhoal
This amulet upgrades the maximum damage, but we're still using the Volkers set.
However, this is the final amulet before level 850.
Level 837 : Ring of Gedaile
This ring can be crafted. A perfect ring will have 1394 damage after forging.
Level 850 : Archerons set / Chronos set
These 2 sets changes the setup quite significantly.
I can see 3 major setups :
1) Archerons set + Gloves of Rocuia + Amulet of Ferhoal + Reborn Elemental Blade of Fire + Armor of Feldishja + Ring of Gedaile + Boots of Aeroni + Rune of of Chalbm
2) Archerons set + Volkers set + Reborn Elemental Blade of Fire + Armor of Feldishja + Ring of Gedaile + Boots of Aeroni + Rune of of Chalbm
3) Archerons set + Volkers set + Chronos set + Reborn Elemental Blade of Fire + Armor of Feldishja
Setup #1 avoids any crystals. But setup #2 has the best damage among the 3 setups. Setup #3 has less damage, but a lot more defense. If the damage in setup #3 is sufficient, it is probably the best choice. If more attack is needed (but I doubt so), The Dimcriee Roc Rune can substitute the Rune of Yuahe.
Level 852 : Amulet of Dariila
This upgrade is only for setup #1, since the other setups use Volkers set.
Level 859 : Boots of Baliora
An upgrade to the Boots of Grovalke
Monday, April 26, 2010
Chests and Keys
On the home page today, Hunted Cows had this post ::
Posted: 15:49 26 Apr 2010
Chests have been hidden all over the lands, waiting to be found by you!
If you find a chest you will know as an icon will appear on the actions for location bar - so look for the chest icon.
The Chests contain various items and potions to help you on your adventures.
To open chests you find, you will need the correct key. These keys can be obtained on the Loyalty page for either Allegiance Tokens or gold.
Also, we have added 4 new medals which can be obtained by opening the chests.
~ The Fallen Sword Team
The above description is so vague, and I was annoyed when everyone who saw it just assumed that it is 'understood' and go no further in describing it. Thanks to Tru3K1ng, for his patience and clear explanation, I can put this in clear for everyone else with the same curiosity.
When you enter a room that contains a chest, it will appear in the same panel where you see creatures, relics, shops, doors to other realms. It will indicate what type of chests it is.
It does NOT say bronze, silver, gold or crystal chest.
Instead, it says (?, ?, steel or ?) chests. (Still trying to figure out the description of the other chests).
You do NOT and CANNOT pick up a chest.
Instead, you have to buy the corresponding keys (bronze, silver, gold or crystal).
Steel chest requires a gold key.
(Still trying to figure out the correspondence between chests and keys)
The keys do take up a backpack space and are bounded.
Once you have the key, you can click on the chest icon to open it, you get the items within it. Upon which the chest should disappear.
You will get a message such as this :
(Thanks Darmass)
The
So I mentioned those keys. Those keys can be found on "Upgrades->Loyalty" page. Not exactly the page you expect to find keys. I have talked about the other 3 items on that page in my previous posts. With this new announcments, you should see 4 new items :
Bronze Key : 50 Allegiance Tokens or 250k gold.
Silver Key : 200 Allegiance Tokens or 1 mil gold.
Gold Key : 500 Allegiance Tokens or 5 mil gold.
Crystal Key : 1000 Allegiance Tokens or 10 mil gold.
For the Bronze and Silver Keys, the value of the Tokens are at 5k gold.
For the Gold and Crystal Keys, the value of the Tokens are at 10k gold.
So if you are going to use tokens for keys, start with the Gold and Crystal Keys.
If you are going to buy it with gold, start with the Bronze and Silver Keys.
But if you start comparing, 1 token = 10k gold.
150 tokens for the Potion of Intensity (25x doubler) = 1.5 mil = 11 fsps (approx).
Depending on your stam, that potion may be much more valuable.
Of course, if you have many tokens to spend, that's a different discussion. :)
Posted: 15:49 26 Apr 2010
Chests have been hidden all over the lands, waiting to be found by you!
If you find a chest you will know as an icon will appear on the actions for location bar - so look for the chest icon.
The Chests contain various items and potions to help you on your adventures.
To open chests you find, you will need the correct key. These keys can be obtained on the Loyalty page for either Allegiance Tokens or gold.
Also, we have added 4 new medals which can be obtained by opening the chests.
~ The Fallen Sword Team
The above description is so vague, and I was annoyed when everyone who saw it just assumed that it is 'understood' and go no further in describing it. Thanks to Tru3K1ng, for his patience and clear explanation, I can put this in clear for everyone else with the same curiosity.
When you enter a room that contains a chest, it will appear in the same panel where you see creatures, relics, shops, doors to other realms. It will indicate what type of chests it is.
It does NOT say bronze, silver, gold or crystal chest.
Instead, it says (?, ?, steel or ?) chests. (Still trying to figure out the description of the other chests).
You do NOT and CANNOT pick up a chest.
Instead, you have to buy the corresponding keys (bronze, silver, gold or crystal).
Steel chest requires a gold key.
(Still trying to figure out the correspondence between chests and keys)
The keys do take up a backpack space and are bounded.
Once you have the key, you can click on the chest icon to open it, you get the items within it. Upon which the chest should disappear.
You will get a message such as this :
| You opened the chest and received 1 x Armor of Astraio. This item can now be found in your mailbox! |
(Thanks Darmass)
The
So I mentioned those keys. Those keys can be found on "Upgrades->Loyalty" page. Not exactly the page you expect to find keys. I have talked about the other 3 items on that page in my previous posts. With this new announcments, you should see 4 new items :
Bronze Key : 50 Allegiance Tokens or 250k gold.
Silver Key : 200 Allegiance Tokens or 1 mil gold.
Gold Key : 500 Allegiance Tokens or 5 mil gold.
Crystal Key : 1000 Allegiance Tokens or 10 mil gold.
For the Bronze and Silver Keys, the value of the Tokens are at 5k gold.
For the Gold and Crystal Keys, the value of the Tokens are at 10k gold.
So if you are going to use tokens for keys, start with the Gold and Crystal Keys.
If you are going to buy it with gold, start with the Bronze and Silver Keys.
But if you start comparing, 1 token = 10k gold.
150 tokens for the Potion of Intensity (25x doubler) = 1.5 mil = 11 fsps (approx).
Depending on your stam, that potion may be much more valuable.
Of course, if you have many tokens to spend, that's a different discussion. :)
Saturday, April 10, 2010
Alliegence Tokens
About a month ago, Hunted Cows introduced Alliegence Tokens. Everyday that you log on earns you 5 token. Every dollar you spend also earns you 20 tokens, and this dollar spent token reward was backdated. In a way, this event lets you know how much you have donated to this game.
The tokens can be exchanged for one of these 3 items :
1. Potion of Intensity (150 tokens)
2. Everlasting Potion (500 tokens)
3. Fleeting Potion (750 tokens)
Potion of Intensity
This is a 25x doubler potion. This potion has the buff level as the Enlister Potion and Santorks Stocking. Its duration is the same as the Enlister Potion, 120 mins. Santorks Stocking, which was a gift from the Cows for Christmas 2009 has a duration of only 60 mins. The value of the doubler has been discussed on my previous post. Its value depends on the amount of stam you are burning and can range from 8 to 44 fsps.
Everlasting Potion
This is a potion for the Unbreakable buff. At level 200, it makes items indestructible. This is the same effect as the Potion of Indestructibility, which was found by scavenging. However, cave creatures no longer drop those potions, and instead drop only the Potion of Resilience, which is only a level 190 buff, and items can still get damage a little. The Potion of Indestructibility is still being traded in AH at about 7 fsps. The value for this Everlasting Potion however has to be higher, since its duration is 300 mins (compared to 60 mins for Potion of Indestructibility). Depending on how long you need to hunt, its value will be from 7 to 35 fsps.
Fleeting Potion
Unlike the other 2 potions, this potion is unmatched by any other. It produces a level 1250 Lightfoot buff. This result in a 62.5% reduction in stam used on walking. For me, it is 140 steps to relic and back, 120 steps on average to get to starting realm. 60 steps per realm. I can get through 4 realms in a hunt. That means I would use about 500 steps, and will save 312.5 steps with this potion. The value of this potion to me will be 12.5 fsps. Someone burning 3 times my stam will value this more. Assuming the same 'overhead' as I, 60*12 + 140 + 120 = 980 steps, and potion will save 612.5 stam, value of 24.5 fsps. So this potion value ranges from 12 to 25 fsps.
Putting a value on these potions isn't exactly meaningful, since all these potions are bounded and cannot be traded. If you have enough tokens, you should consider getting all 3 of them for your hunts. But if you have limited tokens like I do, then the best value for the tokens will be to use it on the Potion of Intensity, since it requires fewer tokens.
Above only considers the use of potions in levelling hunts. I'll quote my guildmate's comment on the use of Fleeting Potion for titan hunting.
The tokens can be exchanged for one of these 3 items :
1. Potion of Intensity (150 tokens)
2. Everlasting Potion (500 tokens)
3. Fleeting Potion (750 tokens)
Potion of Intensity
This is a 25x doubler potion. This potion has the buff level as the Enlister Potion and Santorks Stocking. Its duration is the same as the Enlister Potion, 120 mins. Santorks Stocking, which was a gift from the Cows for Christmas 2009 has a duration of only 60 mins. The value of the doubler has been discussed on my previous post. Its value depends on the amount of stam you are burning and can range from 8 to 44 fsps.
Everlasting Potion
This is a potion for the Unbreakable buff. At level 200, it makes items indestructible. This is the same effect as the Potion of Indestructibility, which was found by scavenging. However, cave creatures no longer drop those potions, and instead drop only the Potion of Resilience, which is only a level 190 buff, and items can still get damage a little. The Potion of Indestructibility is still being traded in AH at about 7 fsps. The value for this Everlasting Potion however has to be higher, since its duration is 300 mins (compared to 60 mins for Potion of Indestructibility). Depending on how long you need to hunt, its value will be from 7 to 35 fsps.
Fleeting Potion
Unlike the other 2 potions, this potion is unmatched by any other. It produces a level 1250 Lightfoot buff. This result in a 62.5% reduction in stam used on walking. For me, it is 140 steps to relic and back, 120 steps on average to get to starting realm. 60 steps per realm. I can get through 4 realms in a hunt. That means I would use about 500 steps, and will save 312.5 steps with this potion. The value of this potion to me will be 12.5 fsps. Someone burning 3 times my stam will value this more. Assuming the same 'overhead' as I, 60*12 + 140 + 120 = 980 steps, and potion will save 612.5 stam, value of 24.5 fsps. So this potion value ranges from 12 to 25 fsps.
Putting a value on these potions isn't exactly meaningful, since all these potions are bounded and cannot be traded. If you have enough tokens, you should consider getting all 3 of them for your hunts. But if you have limited tokens like I do, then the best value for the tokens will be to use it on the Potion of Intensity, since it requires fewer tokens.
Above only considers the use of potions in levelling hunts. I'll quote my guildmate's comment on the use of Fleeting Potion for titan hunting.
| 013L1V10N says: I just wanted to comment on your blog. The LF potion is more valuable when used tot titan hunt, or completing old quests. Best example i can give is a titan. Assume it takes 10 stam per titan kill i.e. 9 steps and 1 hit. It also takes around 150 steps to get to the realm and then you back as well as walking through one map +60. On a normal Ogalith hunt i get 250 kills, Skal 400, Fuvayua, 600. So for an Ogalith hunt 2460steps, skal 3810, Fuv 5610. Therefor LF1250 saves 61.5FSP, 95FSP, 140FSP. Of course this all depends on how much running you do as a titan hunter. |
Monday, March 22, 2010
The value of Doubler
Recap the blog I wrote exactly 2 years ago, of the same title.
http://sisland83.blogspot.com/2008/03/doubler.html
Things have changed quite a lot since then.
We now have :
1. Potion of Supreme Doubling (10x doubler)
2. Potion of Greater Doubler (16x doubler)
3. Christmas Present 2008 (21x doubler)
4. Enlister Potion or Santorks Stocking (25x doubler)
So let's add to the table a few new columns. The math remains the same.
So for most levels, the observed average number of creatures is between 2 and 3.
Other benefits not included in that computation are :
1. Lower chance of getting killed/losing an imp.
2. Lesser chance of losing durability on crystal items.
So, this question was actually asked by my friend UveBinHad.
And I missed having him in PANIC.
What's the value of the Enlister Potion?
From hunting stam perspective, it's only about 1%, and it's actually less since we now have Lightfoot. But 1% is 1%. If you have 13.5k stam, that is 135 stam, and 5.4 fsps in value. Now, if you consider that you will use fewer imps (16/25). If you usually use 3 imp buffs in the hunt, you will now use (16/25)*3, about 2 imp buffs. That's 50 stam, or 2 fsps.
If you're using UB 200, you lose no durability anyway, so I'll discount that.
All in all, that Enlister potion should not be worth more than 8 fsps for a regular hunt.
But hold on to that. If you are burning say 3 times that amount of stam, that value to you will be 24 fsps. And wait, if you needed to re-buff, you can probably burn the stam faster, and maybe you won't have to rebuff. And if that's the case, then you need to add the rebuff stam cost to its value. And a full buff itself can be about 20 fsps. So its value may then be 44 fsps.
http://sisland83.blogspot.com/2008/03/doubler.html
Things have changed quite a lot since then.
We now have :
1. Potion of Supreme Doubling (10x doubler)
2. Potion of Greater Doubler (16x doubler)
3. Christmas Present 2008 (21x doubler)
4. Enlister Potion or Santorks Stocking (25x doubler)
So let's add to the table a few new columns. The math remains the same.
| 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 16 | 25 | |
| 0.2 | 71% | 125% | 167% | 200% | 357% | 400% |
| 0.4 | 56% | 91% | 115% | 133% | 203% | 218% |
| 0.6 | 45% | 71% | 88% | 100% | 142% | 150% |
| 0.8 | 38% | 59% | 71% | 80% | 109% | 114% |
| 1.0 | 33% | 50% | 60% | 67% | 88% | 92% |
| 1.2 | 29% | 43% | 52% | 57% | 74% | 77% |
| 1.4 | 26% | 38% | 45% | 50% | 64% | 67% |
| 1.6 | 24% | 34% | 41% | 44% | 56% | 59% |
| 1.8 | 22% | 31% | 37% | 40% | 50% | 52% |
| 2.0 | 20% | 29% | 33% | 36% | 45% | 47% |
| 2.2 | 19% | 26% | 31% | 33% | 41% | 43% |
| 2.4 | 17% | 24% | 28% | 31% | 38% | 39% |
| 2.6 | 16% | 23% | 26% | 29% | 35% | 36% |
| 2.8 | 15% | 21% | 25% | 27% | 33% | 34% |
| 3.0 | 14% | 20% | 23% | 25% | 31% | 32% |
So for most levels, the observed average number of creatures is between 2 and 3.
Other benefits not included in that computation are :
1. Lower chance of getting killed/losing an imp.
2. Lesser chance of losing durability on crystal items.
So, this question was actually asked by my friend UveBinHad.
And I missed having him in PANIC.
What's the value of the Enlister Potion?
From hunting stam perspective, it's only about 1%, and it's actually less since we now have Lightfoot. But 1% is 1%. If you have 13.5k stam, that is 135 stam, and 5.4 fsps in value. Now, if you consider that you will use fewer imps (16/25). If you usually use 3 imp buffs in the hunt, you will now use (16/25)*3, about 2 imp buffs. That's 50 stam, or 2 fsps.
If you're using UB 200, you lose no durability anyway, so I'll discount that.
All in all, that Enlister potion should not be worth more than 8 fsps for a regular hunt.
But hold on to that. If you are burning say 3 times that amount of stam, that value to you will be 24 fsps. And wait, if you needed to re-buff, you can probably burn the stam faster, and maybe you won't have to rebuff. And if that's the case, then you need to add the rebuff stam cost to its value. And a full buff itself can be about 20 fsps. So its value may then be 44 fsps.
Sunday, January 17, 2010
Shield Strike vs Potion of Fatality
Shield Strike gives a 17.5% chance of 1-hitting a 2-hit scenario.
Wither buff at level 175 gives a 35% chance, much better than Shield Strike.
Potion of Fatality gives a Wither buff at level 350, and therefore a 70% chance.
Shield Strike = 17.5%
Wither 175 = 35%
Wither 175 + Shield Strike = 46.375%
Wither 350 = 70%
Wither 350 + Shield Strike = 75.25%
If you shop for wither potions, you can usually get them below 300k (2 fsps).
For that value, using the Wither potion alone is probably greater value than Wither 175 + Shield Strike (when you consider their stam cost).
But why am I even comparing them when you can really have both?
I am seeing many players, asking for Shield Strike buffs to go with their Wither buffs, and that to me, does not make sense.
Wither buff at level 175 gives a 35% chance, much better than Shield Strike.
Potion of Fatality gives a Wither buff at level 350, and therefore a 70% chance.
Shield Strike = 17.5%
Wither 175 = 35%
Wither 175 + Shield Strike = 46.375%
Wither 350 = 70%
Wither 350 + Shield Strike = 75.25%
If you shop for wither potions, you can usually get them below 300k (2 fsps).
For that value, using the Wither potion alone is probably greater value than Wither 175 + Shield Strike (when you consider their stam cost).
But why am I even comparing them when you can really have both?
I am seeing many players, asking for Shield Strike buffs to go with their Wither buffs, and that to me, does not make sense.
Saturday, January 2, 2010
Volkers Set
Happy New Year.
So I just completed my first levelling hunt for 2010. I was less well prepared than I liked to, and when I reached level 710, I realized I still have yet to buy the Volkers set. The guild's set was in use, so I bought them in a hurry (108 fsps total), and forged them (20 fsps + 6.6 mil). Equivalent of 173 fsps total. Each item has a durability of 160, so that leads to a little more than 0.5 durability loss. I expect to lose 2 durability on each item for a single hunt, using UB 190, and that still works out cheaper than using a UB 200 potion of indestructibility (which now cost 11 fsps). This 2 durability loss per hunt and 3 levels minimum per hunt also means that this single set should get me all the way through level 950, so I am satisfied that I won't need to buy a 2nd set.
So now we get the cost out of the way, let's compare this with other sets. From level 475 to 710, there are 4 sets that consists of Gloves + Amulet pair. All stats below refer to perfect items (if craftable), and fully forged (unless otherwise noted).
Ornates of the Lamia set (level 475)
Ornate Bracers of the Lamia (262 attack, 502 defense, 402 damage)
Ornate Choker of the Lamia (402 attack, 212 defense, 552 damage)
Ornate of the Lamia set bonus (325 attack, 225 defense, 375 damage)
Total (989 attack, 939 defense, 1329 damage)
Cadeyrns set (level 475)
Cadeyrns Battle Grips (372 attack, 502 defense, 332 damage)
Cadeyrns Battle Gorget (672 attack, 212 defense, 322 damage)
Cadeyrns set bonus (240 attack, 235 defense, 450 damage)
Total (1284 attack, 949 defense, 1104 damage)
Polar Spine set (level 650)
Polar Spine Grips (84 attack, 964 armor, 659 damage)
Polar Spine Neckpiece (522 attack, 426 armor, 759 damage)
Polar Spine set bonus (450 attack, 650 damage)
Total (1056 attack, 1390 armor, 2068 damage)
Volkers set (level 710)
Volkers Gauntlets (930 attack, 740 damage)
Volkers Amulet (500 attack, 1170 damage)
Volkers set bonus (440 attack, 1020 damage)
Total (1870 attack, 2930 damage)
So Volkers set has more total stats than any of the other 3 sets. This can be expected because it is a higher level set and a crystalline set too. But because its stats is divided only between attack and damage (no defense like the Ornate of the Lamia and Cadeyrns, or armor like Polar Spine), it is so much more desirable than any of the sets above. Even if you need to go defensive, it will be better to use this set and switch one of the other damage item to a defensive item. I'll illustrate it by comparing Ornates with damage boots and Volkers with defensive boots.
Ornates of the Lamia set (level 475)
Ornate Bracers of the Lamia (262 attack, 502 defense, 402 damage)
Ornate Choker of the Lamia (402 attack, 212 defense, 552 damage)
Ornate of the Lamia set bonus (325 attack, 225 defense, 375 damage)
Boots of Aeroni (237 defense, 47 hp, 1105 damage)
Total (989 attack, 1176 defense, 2434 damage)
Cadeyrns set (level 475)
Cadeyrns Battle Grips (372 attack, 502 defense, 332 damage)
Cadeyrns Battle Gorget (672 attack, 212 defense, 322 damage)
Cadeyrns set bonus (240 attack, 235 defense, 450 damage)
Boots of Aeroni (237 defense, 47 hp, 1105 damage)
Total (1284 attack, 1186 defense, 2209 damage)
Volkers set (level 710)
Volkers Gauntlets (930 attack, 740 damage)
Volkers Amulet (500 attack, 1170 damage)
Volkers set bonus (440 attack, 1020 damage)
Boots of Yelaow (185 attack, 1126 defense) *not forged
Total (2055 attack, 1126 defense, 2930 damage)
The small difference in defense is traded for a lot of damage and attack. Since armor is mostly useless in hunting setup, and Volkers set has more attack and damage than Polar Spine set, it is preferred. In summary, at level 710, switch to Volkers set and stop using any of the other 3 sets, even for defensive setups.
(Credits : Thanks to robotussin for showing me the Cadeyrns set for their stats).
So I just completed my first levelling hunt for 2010. I was less well prepared than I liked to, and when I reached level 710, I realized I still have yet to buy the Volkers set. The guild's set was in use, so I bought them in a hurry (108 fsps total), and forged them (20 fsps + 6.6 mil). Equivalent of 173 fsps total. Each item has a durability of 160, so that leads to a little more than 0.5 durability loss. I expect to lose 2 durability on each item for a single hunt, using UB 190, and that still works out cheaper than using a UB 200 potion of indestructibility (which now cost 11 fsps). This 2 durability loss per hunt and 3 levels minimum per hunt also means that this single set should get me all the way through level 950, so I am satisfied that I won't need to buy a 2nd set.
So now we get the cost out of the way, let's compare this with other sets. From level 475 to 710, there are 4 sets that consists of Gloves + Amulet pair. All stats below refer to perfect items (if craftable), and fully forged (unless otherwise noted).
Ornates of the Lamia set (level 475)
Ornate Bracers of the Lamia (262 attack, 502 defense, 402 damage)
Ornate Choker of the Lamia (402 attack, 212 defense, 552 damage)
Ornate of the Lamia set bonus (325 attack, 225 defense, 375 damage)
Total (989 attack, 939 defense, 1329 damage)
Cadeyrns set (level 475)
Cadeyrns Battle Grips (372 attack, 502 defense, 332 damage)
Cadeyrns Battle Gorget (672 attack, 212 defense, 322 damage)
Cadeyrns set bonus (240 attack, 235 defense, 450 damage)
Total (1284 attack, 949 defense, 1104 damage)
Polar Spine set (level 650)
Polar Spine Grips (84 attack, 964 armor, 659 damage)
Polar Spine Neckpiece (522 attack, 426 armor, 759 damage)
Polar Spine set bonus (450 attack, 650 damage)
Total (1056 attack, 1390 armor, 2068 damage)
Volkers set (level 710)
Volkers Gauntlets (930 attack, 740 damage)
Volkers Amulet (500 attack, 1170 damage)
Volkers set bonus (440 attack, 1020 damage)
Total (1870 attack, 2930 damage)
So Volkers set has more total stats than any of the other 3 sets. This can be expected because it is a higher level set and a crystalline set too. But because its stats is divided only between attack and damage (no defense like the Ornate of the Lamia and Cadeyrns, or armor like Polar Spine), it is so much more desirable than any of the sets above. Even if you need to go defensive, it will be better to use this set and switch one of the other damage item to a defensive item. I'll illustrate it by comparing Ornates with damage boots and Volkers with defensive boots.
Ornates of the Lamia set (level 475)
Ornate Bracers of the Lamia (262 attack, 502 defense, 402 damage)
Ornate Choker of the Lamia (402 attack, 212 defense, 552 damage)
Ornate of the Lamia set bonus (325 attack, 225 defense, 375 damage)
Boots of Aeroni (237 defense, 47 hp, 1105 damage)
Total (989 attack, 1176 defense, 2434 damage)
Cadeyrns set (level 475)
Cadeyrns Battle Grips (372 attack, 502 defense, 332 damage)
Cadeyrns Battle Gorget (672 attack, 212 defense, 322 damage)
Cadeyrns set bonus (240 attack, 235 defense, 450 damage)
Boots of Aeroni (237 defense, 47 hp, 1105 damage)
Total (1284 attack, 1186 defense, 2209 damage)
Volkers set (level 710)
Volkers Gauntlets (930 attack, 740 damage)
Volkers Amulet (500 attack, 1170 damage)
Volkers set bonus (440 attack, 1020 damage)
Boots of Yelaow (185 attack, 1126 defense) *not forged
Total (2055 attack, 1126 defense, 2930 damage)
The small difference in defense is traded for a lot of damage and attack. Since armor is mostly useless in hunting setup, and Volkers set has more attack and damage than Polar Spine set, it is preferred. In summary, at level 710, switch to Volkers set and stop using any of the other 3 sets, even for defensive setups.
(Credits : Thanks to robotussin for showing me the Cadeyrns set for their stats).
Friday, December 25, 2009
Power Leveller B
First of all, Merry Christmas to everyone reading this blog.
Thank you for reading, even though I have written sparingly this year.
Power Leveller B is a buff pack that a guild can activate using guild reputation points (RP), along with other buff packs. So let's start with listing what they are :
Battle Pack A (cost 5 RP) :
Now, that we get those distraction out of the way, we can get back to Power Leveller B. In this pack, Librarian is really not needed, since the Potion of the Bookworm provides a level 225 buff. The Doubler is also not needed, since potions can provide a level 750 buff, and the Christmas present (Santork Stocking) provides level 1200 buff. That leaves 2 useful buffs, Adept Learner level 200 and Conserve level 200.
Adept Learner level 200 gives 40% more xp from creature kills, compared to 35% more xp when using the buff at level 175. Effectively, this is a 3.7% improvement (1.4/1.35-1). Conserve level 200 gives a 10% chance that an attack will use no stamina, while Conserve level 175 gives a 8.75% chance. So effectively, this is a 1.15% improvement (1.1/1.0875-1). Together, that result in a 4.9% improvement ((1+5%)*(1+1.15%)-1).
So, if you are hunting with 10k stam, you effectively 'gained' 490 stam using this pack, compared to regular buffs. And you also saved 20 stam from not having to buff Adept Learner and Conserve. So that buff pack is worth 510 stam (or 20 fsps), for even a single player burning 10k stam. Multiply that by the number of players hunting in the 12 hours period.
The other side of the equation is the value of RP. RP can be gained in 2 ways :
For titan hunting, the winner is rewarded with an epic item. The runner-ups (up to 5th place) receives RP.
I hope the above gives you an idea of the value of the Power Leveller B buff pack, both the cost of it, and what the value to you when you hunt.
Thank you for reading, even though I have written sparingly this year.
Power Leveller B is a buff pack that a guild can activate using guild reputation points (RP), along with other buff packs. So let's start with listing what they are :
Battle Pack A (cost 5 RP) :
- Rage (level 150)
- Berserk (level 150)
- Fortify (level 150)
- Deathwish (level 200)
- Death Dealer (level 200)
- Wither (level 200)
- Adept Learner (level 150)
- Librarian (level 150)
- Doubler (level 150)
- Adept Learner (level 200)
- Librarian (level 200)
- Doubler (level 200)
- Conserve (level 200)
- Quest Finder (level 150)
- Merchant (level 150)
- Four Leaf (level 150)
- Find Item (level 150)
- Treasure Hunter (level 150)
Now, that we get those distraction out of the way, we can get back to Power Leveller B. In this pack, Librarian is really not needed, since the Potion of the Bookworm provides a level 225 buff. The Doubler is also not needed, since potions can provide a level 750 buff, and the Christmas present (Santork Stocking) provides level 1200 buff. That leaves 2 useful buffs, Adept Learner level 200 and Conserve level 200.
Adept Learner level 200 gives 40% more xp from creature kills, compared to 35% more xp when using the buff at level 175. Effectively, this is a 3.7% improvement (1.4/1.35-1). Conserve level 200 gives a 10% chance that an attack will use no stamina, while Conserve level 175 gives a 8.75% chance. So effectively, this is a 1.15% improvement (1.1/1.0875-1). Together, that result in a 4.9% improvement ((1+5%)*(1+1.15%)-1).
So, if you are hunting with 10k stam, you effectively 'gained' 490 stam using this pack, compared to regular buffs. And you also saved 20 stam from not having to buff Adept Learner and Conserve. So that buff pack is worth 510 stam (or 20 fsps), for even a single player burning 10k stam. Multiply that by the number of players hunting in the 12 hours period.
The other side of the equation is the value of RP. RP can be gained in 2 ways :
- Winning a GvG conflict
- Titan hunting (rewarded for 2nd through 5th place)
For titan hunting, the winner is rewarded with an epic item. The runner-ups (up to 5th place) receives RP.
- 1st place : Epic Item (Actual item depends on the titan killed)
- 2nd place : 100 RP
- 3rd place : 75 RP
- 4th place : 50 RP
- 5th place : 20 RP
- Fuvayu (1547/1376/1132/689/442)
- Tsukiyaomo (3326/2440/313/312/48)
- Tsukiyaomo (3483/903/792/770/549)
- Fuvayu (2989/676/561/478/441)
- Ogalith (1614/600/228/194/192)
I hope the above gives you an idea of the value of the Power Leveller B buff pack, both the cost of it, and what the value to you when you hunt.
Saturday, December 19, 2009
Tsukiyaomos Benighted Helm
First of all, let me retract one of my previous assumption. That assumption was that if you cannot 1-hit, there are no defensive setups that can allow a 1-hit with Spectral Knight activation. That assumption was valid (for me at least), until I hit level 594. The Blade of Panethor was the item that changed that assumption. Also, the new relic bonus now allow for up to 20% more attack/damage/defense, so that may invalidate my previous assumption prior to level 594 also.
Now, let's back to the topic for this blog.
Tsukiyaomos Benighted Helm is an Epic item, awarded to the guild for having the most kill on a Tsukiyaomos Titan. A perfect and fully forged helm gives 710 defense and 1035 damage. It's minimum level is 550 and is the highest damage item for its level. Only until level 660 can you find a helmet with higher damage (Helmet of Comizhar). So clearly, this is the ideal helm from level 550 to 659, but what about 660?
The perfect and fully forged Helmet of Comizhar gives 293 defense and 1193 damage. So at first glance, the trade off is 417 defense for 158 damage. If you are aiming for 1-hit, the Helmet of Comizhar at first glance looks better. But you will want to have Elite Hunter. Tsukiyaomos Benighted Helm gives the Elite Hunter, so you don't need to use another set. While with the Helmet of Comizhar, you will need to get it from another item. Let's compare a few setups at level 660.
Setup #1 : Tsukiyaomos Benighted Helm
Tsukiyaomos Benighted Helm (710 defense, 1035 damage)
Gloves of Sarlonde (412 defense, 1062 damage)
Amulet of Phalla (204 attack, 1184 damage)
Axe of Malquan (243 attack, 1189 damage)
Armor of Fellaphel (343 defense, 1035 damage)
Farn-org Shield (422 armor, 1063 damage)
Ring of Gasrel (204 defense, 1142 damage)
Boots of Aeroni (237 defense, 1105 damage)
Rune of Autpel (343 defense, 1093 damage)
*Gloves and Shield above are excellent stats
Setup #2 : Helmet of Comizhar with Fuvayus Vortex Stone
Helmet of Comizhar (293 defense, 1193 damage)
Fuvayus Vortex Stone (376 defense, 875 damage)
Gloves of Sarlonde (412 defense, 1062 damage)
Amulet of Phalla (204 attack, 1184 damage)
Axe of Malquan (243 attack, 1189 damage)
Armor of Fellaphel (343 defense, 1035 damage)
Farn-org Shield (422 armor, 1063 damage)
Ring of Gasrel (204 defense, 1142 damage)
Boots of Aeroni (237 defense, 1105 damage)
*Stone above is excellent stats
Setup #3 : Helmet of Comizhar with Polar Spine set
Helmet of Comizhar (293 defense, 1193 damage)
Polar Spine Grips (84 attack, 964 armor, 659 damage)
Polar Spine Neckpiece (522 attack, 426 armor, 759 damage)
Polar Spine set bonus (450 attack, 650 damage)
Axe of Malquan (243 attack, 1189 damage)
Armor of Fellaphel (343 defense, 1035 damage)
Farn-org Shield (422 armor, 1063 damage)
Ring of Gasrel (204 defense, 1142 damage)
Boots of Aeroni (237 defense, 1105 damage)
Rune of Autpel (343 defense, 1093 damage)
Setup #4 : Tsukiyaomos Benighted Helm with Polar Spine set
Tsukiyaomos Benighted Helm (710 defense, 1035 damage)
Polar Spine Grips (84 attack, 964 armor, 659 damage)
Polar Spine Neckpiece (522 attack, 426 armor, 759 damage)
Polar Spine set bonus (450 attack, 650 damage)
Axe of Malquan (243 attack, 1189 damage)
Armor of Fellaphel (343 defense, 1035 damage)
Farn-org Shield (422 armor, 1063 damage)
Ring of Gasrel (204 defense, 1142 damage)
Boots of Aeroni (237 defense, 1105 damage)
Rune of Autpel (343 defense, 1093 damage)
The only 4 items that differ are Helm, Gloves, Amulet and Rune, so let's add only those.
Setup #1 : 204 attack, 4374 damage, 1465 defense
Setup #2 : 204 attack, 4314 damage, 1081 defense
Setup #3 : 1056 attack, 4354 damage, 636 defense
Setup #4 : 1056 attack, 4196 damage, 1053 defense
So setup #2 pales in every way when compared to setup #1. It is still worth mentioning, especially since the Tsukiyaomos helmet is not always available.
Now, setup #3 when compared to setup #1 is a trade off. The trade off is for 20 damage and more than 800 defense for more than 800 attack. That damage is difference is in a way insignificant, and the comparison basically becomes defense vs attack trade off.
Setup #4 compared to setup #3 is a trade off of damage for defense. The question on which setup to use will depend on the creature.
On many levels, setup #1 will NOT provide enough attack. So one has to consider setup #2 and #3. Other items worth considering are :
Ornate set : When compared to Polar Spine, it has 78 attack and 749 damage less, but gains 938 defense. It is useful only in 2-hit scenario.
Gloves of Renshar : Has attack stats
Ring of Aeslam : Has attack stats
Shield of Stalia : Has attack stats
Shield of Deffale : Has defense stats (Farn-org Shield has armor)
Armor of Huraal : Has attack stats
Upgrades past level 660 includes :
Gloves of Gialle (669) : Useful only in setup #1, since Polar Spine, Ornate or even Volkers set has a glove.
Guardian of Meidos Armor (710) : Damage upgrade, but has armor stats
Arkl Axe (712) : Damage upgrade, attack stats
Now, let's back to the topic for this blog.
Tsukiyaomos Benighted Helm is an Epic item, awarded to the guild for having the most kill on a Tsukiyaomos Titan. A perfect and fully forged helm gives 710 defense and 1035 damage. It's minimum level is 550 and is the highest damage item for its level. Only until level 660 can you find a helmet with higher damage (Helmet of Comizhar). So clearly, this is the ideal helm from level 550 to 659, but what about 660?
The perfect and fully forged Helmet of Comizhar gives 293 defense and 1193 damage. So at first glance, the trade off is 417 defense for 158 damage. If you are aiming for 1-hit, the Helmet of Comizhar at first glance looks better. But you will want to have Elite Hunter. Tsukiyaomos Benighted Helm gives the Elite Hunter, so you don't need to use another set. While with the Helmet of Comizhar, you will need to get it from another item. Let's compare a few setups at level 660.
Setup #1 : Tsukiyaomos Benighted Helm
Tsukiyaomos Benighted Helm (710 defense, 1035 damage)
Gloves of Sarlonde (412 defense, 1062 damage)
Amulet of Phalla (204 attack, 1184 damage)
Axe of Malquan (243 attack, 1189 damage)
Armor of Fellaphel (343 defense, 1035 damage)
Farn-org Shield (422 armor, 1063 damage)
Ring of Gasrel (204 defense, 1142 damage)
Boots of Aeroni (237 defense, 1105 damage)
Rune of Autpel (343 defense, 1093 damage)
*Gloves and Shield above are excellent stats
Setup #2 : Helmet of Comizhar with Fuvayus Vortex Stone
Helmet of Comizhar (293 defense, 1193 damage)
Fuvayus Vortex Stone (376 defense, 875 damage)
Gloves of Sarlonde (412 defense, 1062 damage)
Amulet of Phalla (204 attack, 1184 damage)
Axe of Malquan (243 attack, 1189 damage)
Armor of Fellaphel (343 defense, 1035 damage)
Farn-org Shield (422 armor, 1063 damage)
Ring of Gasrel (204 defense, 1142 damage)
Boots of Aeroni (237 defense, 1105 damage)
*Stone above is excellent stats
Setup #3 : Helmet of Comizhar with Polar Spine set
Helmet of Comizhar (293 defense, 1193 damage)
Polar Spine Grips (84 attack, 964 armor, 659 damage)
Polar Spine Neckpiece (522 attack, 426 armor, 759 damage)
Polar Spine set bonus (450 attack, 650 damage)
Axe of Malquan (243 attack, 1189 damage)
Armor of Fellaphel (343 defense, 1035 damage)
Farn-org Shield (422 armor, 1063 damage)
Ring of Gasrel (204 defense, 1142 damage)
Boots of Aeroni (237 defense, 1105 damage)
Rune of Autpel (343 defense, 1093 damage)
Setup #4 : Tsukiyaomos Benighted Helm with Polar Spine set
Tsukiyaomos Benighted Helm (710 defense, 1035 damage)
Polar Spine Grips (84 attack, 964 armor, 659 damage)
Polar Spine Neckpiece (522 attack, 426 armor, 759 damage)
Polar Spine set bonus (450 attack, 650 damage)
Axe of Malquan (243 attack, 1189 damage)
Armor of Fellaphel (343 defense, 1035 damage)
Farn-org Shield (422 armor, 1063 damage)
Ring of Gasrel (204 defense, 1142 damage)
Boots of Aeroni (237 defense, 1105 damage)
Rune of Autpel (343 defense, 1093 damage)
The only 4 items that differ are Helm, Gloves, Amulet and Rune, so let's add only those.
Setup #1 : 204 attack, 4374 damage, 1465 defense
Setup #2 : 204 attack, 4314 damage, 1081 defense
Setup #3 : 1056 attack, 4354 damage, 636 defense
Setup #4 : 1056 attack, 4196 damage, 1053 defense
So setup #2 pales in every way when compared to setup #1. It is still worth mentioning, especially since the Tsukiyaomos helmet is not always available.
Now, setup #3 when compared to setup #1 is a trade off. The trade off is for 20 damage and more than 800 defense for more than 800 attack. That damage is difference is in a way insignificant, and the comparison basically becomes defense vs attack trade off.
Setup #4 compared to setup #3 is a trade off of damage for defense. The question on which setup to use will depend on the creature.
On many levels, setup #1 will NOT provide enough attack. So one has to consider setup #2 and #3. Other items worth considering are :
Ornate set : When compared to Polar Spine, it has 78 attack and 749 damage less, but gains 938 defense. It is useful only in 2-hit scenario.
Gloves of Renshar : Has attack stats
Ring of Aeslam : Has attack stats
Shield of Stalia : Has attack stats
Shield of Deffale : Has defense stats (Farn-org Shield has armor)
Armor of Huraal : Has attack stats
Upgrades past level 660 includes :
Gloves of Gialle (669) : Useful only in setup #1, since Polar Spine, Ornate or even Volkers set has a glove.
Guardian of Meidos Armor (710) : Damage upgrade, but has armor stats
Arkl Axe (712) : Damage upgrade, attack stats
Wednesday, October 28, 2009
Krul Pyramid
Krul Pyramid is a relic. As per my previous blog entry on Ethereal Pillars, I will document here how to get to the Pyramid, how to get to the nearest portal, as well as the stamina used.
To the Pyramid :
Portal to Krul Island : 25
Enter Krul Beach - leads to Krul Beach Forest West : 1
(2,2) - (11,9) : (E,4S,E,2S,W,2S,5E,4N,2E,5N,2E,8S,W) : 38
Enter Krul Beach Forest East : 1
(22,2) - (7,21) : (4W,(enter tunnel),E,2S,(enter tunnel),5E,N) : 15
Enter Krul Small Cave : 1
(2,2) - (4,16) : (4E,14S,2W) : 20
Total = 25+1+38+1+ 15 + 1 + 20 = 101
Krul Beach Forest East is a maze.
To help visualize it, LordOlaf made a map, and you can find it here :
http://www.brownbox.mrolaf.com/newrelic.jpg
Compare to Pillar, this is 4 steps further.
But the comparison won't be complete until we know how to get out to a nearest portal.
The nearest portal is in Krul Beach Forest East.
Again, the map above can help visualize it.
Here's the path to nearest portal :
(4,16) - (2,2) : (2E,14N,4W) : 20
Enter Krul Beach Forest East : 1
(7,21) - (8,15) : (S,5W,(enter tunnel),2N,W,(enter tunnel),2E,3S,(enter tunnel),E,2S) : 20
Total = 20+1+20 = 41.
Compared to Pillar, this is 14 steps nearer.
So the net distance is 10 steps nearer than Pillar.
To the Pyramid :
Portal to Krul Island : 25
Enter Krul Beach - leads to Krul Beach Forest West : 1
(2,2) - (11,9) : (E,4S,E,2S,W,2S,5E,4N,2E,5N,2E,8S,W) : 38
Enter Krul Beach Forest East : 1
(22,2) - (7,21) : (4W,(enter tunnel),E,2S,(enter tunnel),5E,N) : 15
Enter Krul Small Cave : 1
(2,2) - (4,16) : (4E,14S,2W) : 20
Total = 25+1+38+1+ 15 + 1 + 20 = 101
Krul Beach Forest East is a maze.
To help visualize it, LordOlaf made a map, and you can find it here :
http://www.brownbox.mrolaf.com/newrelic.jpg
Compare to Pillar, this is 4 steps further.
But the comparison won't be complete until we know how to get out to a nearest portal.
The nearest portal is in Krul Beach Forest East.
Again, the map above can help visualize it.
Here's the path to nearest portal :
(4,16) - (2,2) : (2E,14N,4W) : 20
Enter Krul Beach Forest East : 1
(7,21) - (8,15) : (S,5W,(enter tunnel),2N,W,(enter tunnel),2E,3S,(enter tunnel),E,2S) : 20
Total = 20+1+20 = 41.
Compared to Pillar, this is 14 steps nearer.
So the net distance is 10 steps nearer than Pillar.
Saturday, July 25, 2009
Shield Strike
When I wrote the entry "Strategy for Tough Levels", my guild mate Andypearce pointed out that Shield Strike can improve the efficiency of the Wither + defense setup.
Shield Strike is a level 700 skill and was not generally available until relatively recently. It is under the Offense tree, cost 20 stamina to buff and has a duration of 45 mins. Its description is :
0.1% per point chance that your defense stat is reduced to zero and your damage is doubled.
So, at level 175, it gives a 17.5% chance of activation.
While we are at it, a level 175 Deathwish has 5.25% chance of activation.
Wither at 350 has a 70% chance of activation.
Critical strike also has a reported chance of 3% activation if max'ed. If you have statistics to show otherwise, please let me know.
All the above skills enhances the 2-hit defensive setups. When any one of those activates, it will turn the 2-hit situation into a 1-hit. Some players mentioned Spectral Knight. I beg to differ on the usefulness of that buff. If the creature is easy, then you can 1-hit without the need of armor reduction. If you can't 1-hit and need to use a defensive setup, chances are that you won't be able to 1-hit even if Spectral Knight is activated.
Now, do NOT add all those percentages.
So the chance that none of them activate is (30% wither, 82.5% shield strike, 94.75% deathwish, 97% critical strike), multiply those, and that will be about 22.75%. That gives a 77.25% chance of 1-strike, and the efficiency is about 1.23.
Note that below assumes 16x doubler, and the Wither setup includes the use of Shield strike and Deathwish.
Shield Strike is a level 700 skill and was not generally available until relatively recently. It is under the Offense tree, cost 20 stamina to buff and has a duration of 45 mins. Its description is :
0.1% per point chance that your defense stat is reduced to zero and your damage is doubled.
So, at level 175, it gives a 17.5% chance of activation.
While we are at it, a level 175 Deathwish has 5.25% chance of activation.
Wither at 350 has a 70% chance of activation.
Critical strike also has a reported chance of 3% activation if max'ed. If you have statistics to show otherwise, please let me know.
All the above skills enhances the 2-hit defensive setups. When any one of those activates, it will turn the 2-hit situation into a 1-hit. Some players mentioned Spectral Knight. I beg to differ on the usefulness of that buff. If the creature is easy, then you can 1-hit without the need of armor reduction. If you can't 1-hit and need to use a defensive setup, chances are that you won't be able to 1-hit even if Spectral Knight is activated.
Now, do NOT add all those percentages.
So the chance that none of them activate is (30% wither, 82.5% shield strike, 94.75% deathwish, 97% critical strike), multiply those, and that will be about 22.75%. That gives a 77.25% chance of 1-strike, and the efficiency is about 1.23.
Note that below assumes 16x doubler, and the Wither setup includes the use of Shield strike and Deathwish.
| Efficiency | Setup |
| 1 | 1-hit |
| 1.06 | CA-25 |
| 1.13 | CA-50 |
| 1.19 | CA-75 |
| 1.23 | Wither 350 + Defense |
| 1.25 | CA-100 |
| 1.25 | Back-level (1-hit) |
| 1.3 | Wither 350 + CA25 + Defense |
| 1.31 | CA-125 |
| 1.33 | Back-level (CA-25) |
| 1.35 | Wither 350 + Imp |
| 1.38 | CA-150 |
| 1.39 | Wither 350 + CA50 + Defense |
| 1.41 | Back-level (CA-50) |
| 1.44 | CA-175 |
| 1.46 | Wither 350 + CA75 + Defense |
| 1.48 | Back-level (CA-75) |
| 1.56 | Back-level (CA-100) |
| 1.64 | Back-level (CA-125) |
| 1.72 | Back-level (CA-150) |
| 1.8 | Back-level (CA-175) |
| 2 | 2-hit |
FI 800 vs FI 1000
Potion of Greater Discovery gives a Find Item buff of level 800. It is relatively cheap. At the time of writing this blog, the lowest is going for 44,000 gold buy-now price.
Potion of Supreme Luck gives the same buff, but level 1000. Its can be found in the Special section of Auction House. The items are bounded and you cannot resell them. The minimum bid is 24,000 gold but bidding often go above 200,000 gold or even more during events.
But what is the Find Item buff? The description says :
+0.1% per point increase of creatures current drop rate.
So the FI 800 potion gives 80% increase of creatures current drop rate.
The FI 1000 potion gives 100% increase of creatures current drop rate.
Let's say the drop rate is X, then FI 800 will increase it to 1.8 X, while FI 1000 will increase it to 2.0 X. Therefore, the FI 800 drop rate is only 10% less than FI 1000 and not 20% like some thought it to be.
In scavenging, that 10% can still matter a lot. If you are spending 2 mil, that 10% amounts to 200k, and you should break even if you have to pay 200k more (ie, 244k) for the FI 1000. And if you are hard core and spend 10 mil, your break-even will be 1 mil for the FI 1000 potion.
Potion of Supreme Luck gives the same buff, but level 1000. Its can be found in the Special section of Auction House. The items are bounded and you cannot resell them. The minimum bid is 24,000 gold but bidding often go above 200,000 gold or even more during events.
But what is the Find Item buff? The description says :
+0.1% per point increase of creatures current drop rate.
So the FI 800 potion gives 80% increase of creatures current drop rate.
The FI 1000 potion gives 100% increase of creatures current drop rate.
Let's say the drop rate is X, then FI 800 will increase it to 1.8 X, while FI 1000 will increase it to 2.0 X. Therefore, the FI 800 drop rate is only 10% less than FI 1000 and not 20% like some thought it to be.
In scavenging, that 10% can still matter a lot. If you are spending 2 mil, that 10% amounts to 200k, and you should break even if you have to pay 200k more (ie, 244k) for the FI 1000. And if you are hard core and spend 10 mil, your break-even will be 1 mil for the FI 1000 potion.
Saturday, June 27, 2009
Fuvayus Vortex Stone and Polar Spine set
4 months ago, I wrote a blog entry on Octo-Spine set. Recently, 3 new items have been introduced.
The Fuvayus Vortex Stone is an Epic item. It is award to the guild with the most hits on a Titan. As with all other Epic items, the item alone has 100 Elite Hunter, making it a "1-item set". The Vortex Stone requires minimum level 400 to equip.
In a recent legendary event, a new legendary creature was introduced. The Polar Spine Chomper can be found in the caves via scavenging. They drop 2 items that form a set, much like the other spine chompers. These items are crystalline, like all other spine items. The items are Polar Spine Grips (gloves) and Polar Spine Neckpiece (amulet). This is a level 650 set.
The Vortex Stone has 880 damage when perfect crafted and fully forged. The Vortex Stone does not add to attack stats. The Octo-Spine set with Shield and Stone has 1686 damage and 561 attack, including set bonus. So for the Vortex Stone to beat the Octo-Spine set, the shield must have at least 806 damage. Such item comes only at level 577. So that is the level where I shall start my analysis.
Level 577 (Octo-Spine vs Fuvayus Vortex Stone)
The maximum damage items at this level are :
Gloves of Li Shang, Sphynx Helmet, Dazmorr Amulet, Master of Magic Spear, Armor of Kithdor, Shield of Roljill, Ring of Limjarrin, Sthenos Slither Boots, Fuvayus Vortex Stone.
Using that setup, the total damage is 7778, with 1142 attack and 897 defense.
With Octo-Spine set, the total damage is 7747, with 1518 attack and 280 defense.
The trade-off is therefore 31 damage for 376 attack. In fact, the trade-off for attack is more, since Keen Edge can give another 273 more attack with the Octo-Spine set. Keen Edge gives no bonus when using the Vortex Stone and the other max damage items.
Level 578-599 (Equal Improvements)
In these levels, the maximum damage can be improved with these items :
Level 578 - Boots of Abknar
Level 581 - Rune of Cralze (Higher damage, but does not add to Elite Hunter) (not applicable)
Level 582 - Ring of Reakel
Level 584 - Gloves of Corpia
Level 590 - Gloves of Renshar
Level 594 - Blade of Panethor
But they improve both the Vortex and Octo-Spine setups equally, so the comparison and trade-offs remain the same.
Level 600 (Adventurer set)
At level 600, the Adventurer set has 2 items that have the maximum damage for that level. They are the Aging Adventurer Breastplate and Looted Adventurer Tower Shield. The Shield actually shares the same maximum damage. The other 2 items that make up the set are the Looted Adventurer Gauntlets and Looted Adventurer Boots.
Using the Looted Aventurer set the accompanying items are : Sphynx Helmet, Dazmorr Amulet, Blade of Panethor, Ring of Reakel, Rune of Cralze. The total damage adds up to 7617, with 1290 attack and 2662 defense.
Using the Vortex Stone, the other items are : Gloves of Renshar, Sphynx Helmet, Dazmorr Amulet, Blade of Panethor, Aging Adventurer Breastplate, Shield of Roljill, Ring of Reakel, Boots of Abknar. The total damage adds up to 8196, with 1125 attack.
Using Octo-Spine set, the other items are : Gloves of Renshar, Sphynx Helmet, Dazmorr Amulet, Blade of Panethor, Aging Adventurer Breastplate, Ring of Reakel, Boots of Abknar. The total damage adds up to 8165, with 1501 attack.
So the trade-off for Vortex and Octo-Spine still has not changed.
Level 600-649 (Damage upgrades)
Level 609 - Rune of Howbale
Level 612 - Helmet of Grunthar (After 232 levels, finally a helmet upgrade)
Level 616 - Ring of Gasrel
Level 618 - Weapon of Shalok
Level 625 - Boots of Banevor
Level 629 - Rune of Staveal
Level 632 - Ziprael Amulet, Armor of Fellaphel (After 233 levels, finally an amulet upgrade)
Level 633 - Amulet of Lihhal
Level 635 - Weapon of Acualle, Rune of Eassel
Level 636 - Amulet of Tinale
Level 637 - Amulet of Phalla
Level 639 - Boots of Aeroni
Level 647 - Shield of Stalia
Level 650 (Polar Spine set)
Other than the polar spine set, the Gloves of Sarlonde also increases the maximum damage at this level.
Using the Vortex Stone, the other items will be : Gloves of Sarlonde, Helmet of Grunthar, Amulet of Phalla, Weapon of Acualle, Armor of Fellaphel, Shield of Stalia, Ring of Gasrel, Boots of Aeroni. The total damage is 9448, with 947 attack and 1917 defense.
Using the Octo-Spine set, the other items will be : Gloves of Sarlonde, Helmet of Grunthar, Amulet of Phalla, Weapon of Acualle, Armor of Fellaphel, Ring of Gasrel, Boots of Aeroni. The total damage is 9289, with 1069 attack and 1537 defense.
The Vortex Stone - Octo-Spine trade-offs has increased to 159 damage for 122 attack (and another 195 attack in Keen Edge).
Using the Polar Spine set, the other items will be : Helmet of Grunthar, Weapon of Acualle, Armor of Fellaphel, Shield of Stalia, Ring of Gasrel, Boots of Aeroni, Rune of Eassel. The total damage is 9394, with 1799 attack, 1124 defense, and 1765 armor. This setup clearly out shines the other two.
Conclusion
The Vortex Stone was not a big boost. The reduced attack was huge, and the best way to increase the attack is to go back to the Octo-Spine setup. As the level increases, new damage items get introduced and Vortex Stone setup begins to out shine that of the Octo-Spine. But at level 650, the Polar Spine gets thrown in. Even though it has less damage, it has a lot more attack. The trade-off at level 650 is 52 damage for 852 attack.
Thanks to andypearce, UveBinHad, grimnok, and SirJamez for helping me gather the stats of some items mentioned in this blog. Thanks to andypearce who did a sanity check on my initial calculations.
The Fuvayus Vortex Stone is an Epic item. It is award to the guild with the most hits on a Titan. As with all other Epic items, the item alone has 100 Elite Hunter, making it a "1-item set". The Vortex Stone requires minimum level 400 to equip.
In a recent legendary event, a new legendary creature was introduced. The Polar Spine Chomper can be found in the caves via scavenging. They drop 2 items that form a set, much like the other spine chompers. These items are crystalline, like all other spine items. The items are Polar Spine Grips (gloves) and Polar Spine Neckpiece (amulet). This is a level 650 set.
The Vortex Stone has 880 damage when perfect crafted and fully forged. The Vortex Stone does not add to attack stats. The Octo-Spine set with Shield and Stone has 1686 damage and 561 attack, including set bonus. So for the Vortex Stone to beat the Octo-Spine set, the shield must have at least 806 damage. Such item comes only at level 577. So that is the level where I shall start my analysis.
Level 577 (Octo-Spine vs Fuvayus Vortex Stone)
The maximum damage items at this level are :
Gloves of Li Shang, Sphynx Helmet, Dazmorr Amulet, Master of Magic Spear, Armor of Kithdor, Shield of Roljill, Ring of Limjarrin, Sthenos Slither Boots, Fuvayus Vortex Stone.
Using that setup, the total damage is 7778, with 1142 attack and 897 defense.
With Octo-Spine set, the total damage is 7747, with 1518 attack and 280 defense.
The trade-off is therefore 31 damage for 376 attack. In fact, the trade-off for attack is more, since Keen Edge can give another 273 more attack with the Octo-Spine set. Keen Edge gives no bonus when using the Vortex Stone and the other max damage items.
Level 578-599 (Equal Improvements)
In these levels, the maximum damage can be improved with these items :
Level 578 - Boots of Abknar
Level 581 - Rune of Cralze (Higher damage, but does not add to Elite Hunter) (not applicable)
Level 582 - Ring of Reakel
Level 584 - Gloves of Corpia
Level 590 - Gloves of Renshar
Level 594 - Blade of Panethor
But they improve both the Vortex and Octo-Spine setups equally, so the comparison and trade-offs remain the same.
Level 600 (Adventurer set)
At level 600, the Adventurer set has 2 items that have the maximum damage for that level. They are the Aging Adventurer Breastplate and Looted Adventurer Tower Shield. The Shield actually shares the same maximum damage. The other 2 items that make up the set are the Looted Adventurer Gauntlets and Looted Adventurer Boots.
Using the Looted Aventurer set the accompanying items are : Sphynx Helmet, Dazmorr Amulet, Blade of Panethor, Ring of Reakel, Rune of Cralze. The total damage adds up to 7617, with 1290 attack and 2662 defense.
Using the Vortex Stone, the other items are : Gloves of Renshar, Sphynx Helmet, Dazmorr Amulet, Blade of Panethor, Aging Adventurer Breastplate, Shield of Roljill, Ring of Reakel, Boots of Abknar. The total damage adds up to 8196, with 1125 attack.
Using Octo-Spine set, the other items are : Gloves of Renshar, Sphynx Helmet, Dazmorr Amulet, Blade of Panethor, Aging Adventurer Breastplate, Ring of Reakel, Boots of Abknar. The total damage adds up to 8165, with 1501 attack.
So the trade-off for Vortex and Octo-Spine still has not changed.
Level 600-649 (Damage upgrades)
Level 609 - Rune of Howbale
Level 612 - Helmet of Grunthar (After 232 levels, finally a helmet upgrade)
Level 616 - Ring of Gasrel
Level 618 - Weapon of Shalok
Level 625 - Boots of Banevor
Level 629 - Rune of Staveal
Level 632 - Ziprael Amulet, Armor of Fellaphel (After 233 levels, finally an amulet upgrade)
Level 633 - Amulet of Lihhal
Level 635 - Weapon of Acualle, Rune of Eassel
Level 636 - Amulet of Tinale
Level 637 - Amulet of Phalla
Level 639 - Boots of Aeroni
Level 647 - Shield of Stalia
Level 650 (Polar Spine set)
Other than the polar spine set, the Gloves of Sarlonde also increases the maximum damage at this level.
Using the Vortex Stone, the other items will be : Gloves of Sarlonde, Helmet of Grunthar, Amulet of Phalla, Weapon of Acualle, Armor of Fellaphel, Shield of Stalia, Ring of Gasrel, Boots of Aeroni. The total damage is 9448, with 947 attack and 1917 defense.
Using the Octo-Spine set, the other items will be : Gloves of Sarlonde, Helmet of Grunthar, Amulet of Phalla, Weapon of Acualle, Armor of Fellaphel, Ring of Gasrel, Boots of Aeroni. The total damage is 9289, with 1069 attack and 1537 defense.
The Vortex Stone - Octo-Spine trade-offs has increased to 159 damage for 122 attack (and another 195 attack in Keen Edge).
Using the Polar Spine set, the other items will be : Helmet of Grunthar, Weapon of Acualle, Armor of Fellaphel, Shield of Stalia, Ring of Gasrel, Boots of Aeroni, Rune of Eassel. The total damage is 9394, with 1799 attack, 1124 defense, and 1765 armor. This setup clearly out shines the other two.
Conclusion
The Vortex Stone was not a big boost. The reduced attack was huge, and the best way to increase the attack is to go back to the Octo-Spine setup. As the level increases, new damage items get introduced and Vortex Stone setup begins to out shine that of the Octo-Spine. But at level 650, the Polar Spine gets thrown in. Even though it has less damage, it has a lot more attack. The trade-off at level 650 is 52 damage for 852 attack.
Thanks to andypearce, UveBinHad, grimnok, and SirJamez for helping me gather the stats of some items mentioned in this blog. Thanks to andypearce who did a sanity check on my initial calculations.
Sunday, June 7, 2009
Strategy for Tough Levels
I was planning ahead, and it is not the first time I encounter levels where 1-hitting is impossible, not even with Death Dealer and high level CA. The Lao Xan Merchant Guard need even conservatively 18117 damage to 1-hit, and the maximum I can gather is 18048. 18117 is simply Armor + HP for that creature.
So as usual, I consider the option of staying back. The previous level requires CA 75. That has an efficiency of 1.48, which is worse than using the Potion of Fatality. That assumes that you can 1-hit when wither activates, as well as having enough defense not to get hit when wither did not activate. There's also another assumption that CA is not needed in this setup. If such a setup is possible, the efficiency would be 1.3.
I could not find a combination that has enough defense without the use of CA. The best I came up with was a setup that require CA 25. That adds a 1.0625 multiplier and the efficiency becomes 1.38. This is still better than staying back with CA 75.
That's when I thought about another possibility. What about simply going full damage, and use the shield imp 30% of the time. What's the efficiency of that? It turns out not to be such a good idea. Each imp used is about 8.3 stam. That means 30% of the time, you will not only be double hitting, but also use an imp block. That means the efficiency is 1.46. It is still slightly better than staying back with CA 75, but not as good as a defensive setup with CA25.
So why am I documenting this? Even though it is not the best setup for level 548, this is a viable strategy. If a level is so tough as to require CA 50 with wither in defensive mode, then this setup is no worse. Also, if you can get Imps at below stam cost, that will make this setup more efficient. That can be due to players selling imps below stam cost, or having a friend use Buff Master to buff the Imps.
Below table assumes 16x doubler.
It does not account for Shield Strike, Deathwish and Critical Hits. Please see updated table in my blog on Shield Strike.
So as usual, I consider the option of staying back. The previous level requires CA 75. That has an efficiency of 1.48, which is worse than using the Potion of Fatality. That assumes that you can 1-hit when wither activates, as well as having enough defense not to get hit when wither did not activate. There's also another assumption that CA is not needed in this setup. If such a setup is possible, the efficiency would be 1.3.
I could not find a combination that has enough defense without the use of CA. The best I came up with was a setup that require CA 25. That adds a 1.0625 multiplier and the efficiency becomes 1.38. This is still better than staying back with CA 75.
That's when I thought about another possibility. What about simply going full damage, and use the shield imp 30% of the time. What's the efficiency of that? It turns out not to be such a good idea. Each imp used is about 8.3 stam. That means 30% of the time, you will not only be double hitting, but also use an imp block. That means the efficiency is 1.46. It is still slightly better than staying back with CA 75, but not as good as a defensive setup with CA25.
So why am I documenting this? Even though it is not the best setup for level 548, this is a viable strategy. If a level is so tough as to require CA 50 with wither in defensive mode, then this setup is no worse. Also, if you can get Imps at below stam cost, that will make this setup more efficient. That can be due to players selling imps below stam cost, or having a friend use Buff Master to buff the Imps.
Below table assumes 16x doubler.
It does not account for Shield Strike, Deathwish and Critical Hits. Please see updated table in my blog on Shield Strike.
| Efficiency | Setup |
| 1.00 | 1-hit |
| 1.06 | CA-25 |
| 1.13 | CA-50 |
| 1.19 | CA-75 |
| 1.25 | CA-100 |
| 1.25 | Back-level (1-hit) |
| 1.30 | Wither 350 + Defense |
| 1.31 | CA-125 |
| 1.33 | Back-level (CA-25) |
| 1.38 | CA-150 |
| 1.38 | Wither 350 + CA25 + Defense |
| 1.41 | Back-level (CA-50) |
| 1.44 | CA-175 |
| 1.46 | Wither 350 + Imp |
| 1.46 | Wither 350 + CA50 + Defense |
| 1.48 | Back-level (CA-75) |
| 1.54 | Wither 350 + CA75 + Defense |
| 1.56 | Back-level (CA-100) |
| 1.64 | Back-level (CA-125) |
| 1.72 | Back-level (CA-150) |
| 1.80 | Back-level (CA-175) |
| 2.00 | 2-hit |
Saturday, May 30, 2009
Dark Realm and Vision
The Secret Kingdom (Thicket), the level 523 Realm introduces something new to the game. That realm is a dark realm. What does it mean by a dark ream?
On the world screen, we can typically see a 5x5 grid showing us the areas around us. However, in a dark realm, you can only see the square you are standing on.
Vision is a level 500 skill. It is listed under the defensive tree. The official description :
Lights up dark realms. More skill points allow more vision on the 'Map' screen. (Vision radius increases every 50 levels.
However, the description is not clear on what is the 'initial' vision?
What if there is only 1 point in the skill? Does the vision radius increase?
Here's the deal :
Level 1-49 : Only 1x1 grid is shown.
Level 50-99 : 3x3 grid is shown.
Level 100+ : 5x5 grid is shown.
So, the first question, is level 1-49 even useful?
On undocumented aspect of a dark realm is that your attack is halved.
With vision, that penalty is removed.
What about level 150? Are there any advantage?
With level 150+, you can view 7x7 on the realm map.
It does not affect the world map.
Since most player use fallen sword guide or the wiki for their maps, I'd say level 100 is probably sufficient for most.
In fact, level 1 is probably enough, just to remove the half attack penalty, and any higher levels is more for convenience.
On the world screen, we can typically see a 5x5 grid showing us the areas around us. However, in a dark realm, you can only see the square you are standing on.
Vision is a level 500 skill. It is listed under the defensive tree. The official description :
Lights up dark realms. More skill points allow more vision on the 'Map' screen. (Vision radius increases every 50 levels.
However, the description is not clear on what is the 'initial' vision?
What if there is only 1 point in the skill? Does the vision radius increase?
Here's the deal :
Level 1-49 : Only 1x1 grid is shown.
Level 50-99 : 3x3 grid is shown.
Level 100+ : 5x5 grid is shown.
So, the first question, is level 1-49 even useful?
On undocumented aspect of a dark realm is that your attack is halved.
With vision, that penalty is removed.
What about level 150? Are there any advantage?
With level 150+, you can view 7x7 on the realm map.
It does not affect the world map.
Since most player use fallen sword guide or the wiki for their maps, I'd say level 100 is probably sufficient for most.
In fact, level 1 is probably enough, just to remove the half attack penalty, and any higher levels is more for convenience.
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